In this preview, the Rogue gets three new abilities at the trainer: Redirect (level 81), Combat Readiness (level 83), and Smoke Bomb (level 85).
Redirect transfers all combo points between targets so you don’t waste combo points when swapping targets. That sounds pretty good for rogues level 81-85, but should have been made available at lower levels.
Combat Readiness will make rogues a bit harder to kill as each time it gets struck by attacks or spells, the rogue gets a buff reducing the damage by 10%. That sounds like a stacking resilience buff on steroids, but it has a two minutes cooldown. In PvP, along with evasion, this may give the Rogue the chance to survive massive damage from Mages/Warlocks/Boomkins, and lessen the damage from a Fury Warrior, Retribution Paladin or another rogue. In PvE, when bosses cleave, or aggro — this ability will save a Rogue’s hide.
The Smoke Bomb is a fun ability Rogues will love to use in PvE to force ranged mobs to come to the group/raid. It does the same effect as Silence, except the mechanic works different. Basically it blocks line of sight — call it your mobile wall or pillar. Mobs will have to move in to be able to cast. It can be dropped on the tank. In PvP, this ability is really powerful when combined with a party member strategy. Let’s say the enemy team has a Mage and a Death Knight versus Rogue and any Tank. The Rogue stun the mage, and readies to kill the mage — but the Death Knight notices and uses Death Grip on the Rogue. No good. Now replay that scene, but now the Rogue drops a Smoke Bomb. Sorry, Death Knight. You can’t use Death Grip. Bye, Mage.
Rogues will likely get ranty about the nerf to stun locks. The Rogue relies too much on stun locks to survive. That’s not good for the rogue, and not good for the victim who is unable to even cast a single spell sometimes. So, the I-Win button will no longer be available. Instead, the Cataclysm team moved the survivability of the Rogue into buffing Leather armor and increasing Stamina on gear.
The rogue’s passive damage from envenom and slice and dice (with poison) will be reduced in PvE, but damage from active abilities will be increased to compensate, so don’t worry about your damage meter going down considerably.
Rogues no longer need a dagger to use backstab and ambush. Poison can be applied to throw weapons.
Subtlety Rogues will gain more damage than before. There are other interesting mechanics planned for the Rogue. Read the whole Cataclysm: Rogue Class preview below:
|In World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, we’ll be making several changes to class talents and abilities across the board. Here, you’ll get a glimpse at what’s in store for the rogue class, including a look the new high-level abilities and an overview of how the new Mastery system will work with the rogue’s different talent specs.
New Rogue Abilities
Redirect (available at level 81): Rogues will be getting a new ability to help them deal with changing targets. Redirect will transfer any active combo points to the rogue’s current target, helping to ensure combo points aren’t wasted when swapping targets or when targets die. In addition, self-buff abilities like Slice and Dice will no longer require a target, so rogues can spend extra combo points on those types of abilities (more on this below). Redirect will have a 1-minute cooldown and no other costs.
Combat Readiness (level 83): Combat Readiness is a new ability that we intend rogues to trigger defensively. While this ability is active, whenever the rogue is struck by a melee or ranged attack, he or she will gain a stacking buff called Combat Insight that results in a 10% reduction in damage taken. Combat Insight will stack up to 5 times and the timer will be refreshed whenever a new stack is applied. Our goal is to make rogues better equipped to go toe-to-toe with other melee classes when Evasion or stuns are not in play. This ability lasts 6 seconds and has a 2-minute cooldown.
Smoke Bomb (level 85): The rogue drops a Smoke Bomb, creating a cloud that interferes with enemy targeting. Enemies who are outside the cloud will find themselves unable to target units inside the cloud with single-target abilities. Enemies can move inside the cloud to attack, or they can use area-of-effect (AoE) abilities at any time to attack opponents in a cloud. In PvP, this will open up new dimensions of tactical positional gameplay, as the ability offers a variety of offensive and defensive uses. In PvE, Smoke Cloud can serve to shield your group from hostile ranged attacks, while also drawing enemies closer without the need to rely on conventional line-of-sight obstructions. Smoke Cloud lasts 10 seconds and has a 3-minute cooldown.
Changes to Abilities and Mechanics
We’re also planning to make changes to some of the other abilities and mechanics you’re already familiar with. This list and the summary of talent changes below it are by no means comprehensive, but they should give you a good sense of what we want for each spec.
New Talents and Talent Changes
In Cataclysm, the overall feel of each of the rogue’s talent trees will change, as we would like each tree to have a clearly defined niche and purpose. The talent details below are meant to give you an idea of what we’re going for.
Mastery Passive Talent Tree Bonuses
The initial tier of rogue Mastery bonuses will be very similar between the trees. However, the deeper that a player goes into any tree, the more specialized and beneficial the Masteries will be to the play style for that spec. Assassination will have better poisons than the other two specs. Combat will have very steady and consistent overall damage. Subtlety will have strong finishers.
We hope you enjoyed this preview, and we’re looking forward to hearing your initial thoughts and feedback on these additions and changes. Please keep in mind that this information represents a work in progress and is subject to change as development on Cataclysm continues.
To clarify on Combat Readiness: when activated being hit will build up the Combat Insight buff. If not struck within 6 seconds of the last hit it will fall off and the Combat Readiness state will end. If the rogue continues to be hit however Combat Insight will continue to reapply, and it can be applied up to a maximum of 30 seconds total.
Bashiok: Numbers aren’t quite hammered out yet but it restores based on max health and the more combo points used the longer it lasts. While it’s introduced as a low level ability it obviously scales with gear and base health upgrades (being based on max health and all) and be useful for more than just leveling.
Ghostcrawler: Some of you are focused too much on the word “cooldown.” Consider for a moment what the abilities actually do. The current traditional PvP encounter with a rogue is to jump out at someone from stealth, then try to burn them down while applying a chain of stuns. One of two things happen (i.e. it’s a pretty binary outcome): you kill the target in time, or you run out ouf stuns and the target kills you. Now I know that situation is kind of stereotypical perhaps to the point of contrivance, but you should get the basic idea.
We want to make that outcome less binary. With abilities like Combat Readiness you should be able to go toe to toe with a plate wearer for a short period of time. With Smoke Bomb, you should be able to escape spells for a short period of time, or at least get the caster to move closer to you. Does this mean you’re now a plate-wearer instead of a rogue? Of course not. But it means you aren’t so dependent on killing things while they’re locked down. It means you get to think on your feet a little rather than apply a pre-determined sequence of attacks that either succeeds or fails.
In addition, with the boosts to leather armor and Stamina though, you will be a little tougher to kill even without any cooldowns.
We’ve said something similar in some of the other previews, but let me address real quick why we didn’t add new damage-dealing openers, cp generators or finishers. It’s because you have plenty of openers, cp generators and finishers.
We don’t want to add new abilities for the sake of adding them, and in fact we’ve spent a lot of the last two expansions trying to make sure your full arsenal of attacks had a purpose. We don’t want to consider the hypothetical level 120 rogue and imagine that you have four versions of Ambush and a whole action bar of Sinister Strike with various subtle shades of distinction.
We do like to add new abilities, because that’s an exciting part of a new expansion. But we like to find roles for them. Some are going to necessarily be more situational, but that’s why we offer them as core abilities rather than talents that have a heftier cost.
One more point: Fan of Knives was not nerfed. I’m not sure where that concept is coming from unless you are interpreting that from changing the weapon it’s based on to the ranged weapon. We didn’t talk much about numbers, so unless you see “We want this abilitiy to do less damage,” then you’re just jumping to conclusions. It’s safer to assume that every number in the game is changing, but the relative roles of abilities and talents are staying the same unless we specify otherwise (not that we’re listing every single talent tree change in these previews – far from it.)
We just want the ranged weapon to be more than a stat stick for rogues. Adding poisons to FoK is actually a pretty hefty buff. Yes, this means that bows and guns aren’t of much interest to rogues (after leveling). But in this case we want Fan of KNIVES to be taken literally.
Now, having said all that, we suspect you will AE less often in Cataclysm. You’ll CC more and you’ll burn targets down one at a time more often. But that just means all classes will do less damage with AEs. That’s not a rogue nerf.
On Vanish, the answer is we just don’t know yet. This ability was designed to let rogues get back into stealth in order to perform openers again or drop aggro. It was never intended as a spell dodger and because of technical realities between the way the server and client communicate, we’re just not comfortable at this point to promise that Vanish can be the Vanish of your dreams. Now perhaps one option is we go the opposite route and say that Vanish will never get you out of taking damage and we give you another ability that will work to do that. It’s just too early in development to know for sure. I for one will be very disappointed if we’re still having this conversation a year from now. 🙁
On PvP mobility in general, we’re aware of the concerns you have. A trainable Shadowstep isn’t something that’s in the cards, but we’re looking at other ways for rogues to feel like they can deal with opponents who are trying to keep them in range.
On the cooldown issue, another way to consider the problem is how reliant PvP rogues are on Preparation. That’s the problem we’re really trying to address: you feel invincible when those abilities are available and impotent without them. A rogue with Sprint and Vanish (maybe) feels impossible to lock down, but a rogue with neither feels immobile. We’d rather see a world in which rogues have a deeper bag of tricks, but are not as reliant on any single one of those tricks as they are today. As with all things beta, the cooldowns on the new (and old) abilities are subject to adjustment based on testing and feedback.
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